{"id":44899,"date":"2017-06-16T13:39:04","date_gmt":"2017-06-16T18:39:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/setsail.com\/?p=44899"},"modified":"2017-06-16T18:50:57","modified_gmt":"2017-06-16T23:50:57","slug":"fpb-70-and-78-a-much-kneeded-perspective-on-the-next-generation-of-fpbs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/setsail.com\/fpb-70-and-78-a-much-kneeded-perspective-on-the-next-generation-of-fpbs\/","title":{"rendered":"FPB 70 and 78: A Much “Kneeded” Perspective On The Next Generation Of FPBs"},"content":{"rendered":"
\"fpb782_matrix_con\"FPB 78-2 Matrix deck helm<\/span><\/h6>\n

The current America\u2019s Cup spectacle has us entranced: unbelievable speed, maneuverability, and difficult sailing, the likes of which has never been seen before. The design and engineering required to achieve this level of performance is nothing short of astonishing.<\/span><\/p>\n

The time to study what’s happening in Bermuda in detail is the result of this\u00a0correspondent’s photography accident (night sky shooting on a dark dock), which resulted in a shattered kneecap and a forced hiatus from summer cruising…When we started designing and building catamarans in the mid 1960s, the tools of choice were a slide rule, drafting vellum, wood splines, lead ducks, and plastic templates. The very earliest Velocity Predictions (VPPs) were run for us by Norm Riise, from punch cards on the mainframe computer at Jet Propulsion Laboratory at night when there was free time available. We had one of the very first CAD-VPP programs developed by George Hazen, and after a full night of crunching numbers would awake to a sailing monohull performance prediction that was pretty close. Now we have the ability to do highly complex VPPs in real time, use CFD to examine many aspects of design, FEI for engineering, and in the background be crunching photorealistic renderings. It\u2019s been a breathtaking 50 years of progress.<\/span><\/p>\n

With all the technological changes we have adopted, one thing has remained constant in our own approach: a\u00a0post-sea trial set of notes, recapping what worked as expected, and what we have found that surprised us. These notes end up in the form of Next Boat (\u201cNB\u201d) notebooks, there are stacks of them on a shelf in the storeroom, and in the case of our own yachts, are always completed before we start seriously cruising. <\/span><\/p>\n

The first FPB, the 83\u2019 Wind Horse<\/i>, was developed as a retirement project for ourselves. We had no intention of taking the concept commercial. Wind Horse<\/i> was seen as a radical departure from the norm by the establishment, but she was really just an extension of what we\u2019d been doing for years under sail, minus the rig and need for hull form stability to carry sail. (Hence the term unsailboat.)<\/span><\/p>\n

The combination of an extensive powering database from our sailing designs, CFD and VPP analysis, coupled with tank testing, meant that there were no surprises performance-wise. What did catch us unawares was the huge increase in comfort. We were used to very fast passages under sail, with little of the motion that ocean crossing motor yachts\u00a0tend to\u00a0<\/span>take for\u00a0<\/span>granted. So the increased comfort with Wind Horse<\/em> was a very pleasant surprise. Except for one thing…We don\u2019t like surprises. So\u00a0<\/span>we have spent most of our sea time with FPBs over the past 12 years–70,000+ nm now on our own bottoms–working out what it was that made the first FPBs such sweet passage-makers.<\/span><\/p>\n

It took a long time and a lot of miles before we were confident that we understood what was going on. At this point, having developed the FPB 64 and 97, we had no intention of going\u00a0<\/span>further. But then Wind Horse<\/i> was unexpectedly sold, so we got to noodling. We looked at two potential replacement riffs: an updated version of Wind Horse<\/i>\u00a0with more interior volume in a slightly shorter hull, and a much higher volume design\u00a0that would allow us to carry crew if desired, as well as better accommodations for, and separation from, guests.<\/span><\/p>\n

The hull shape, distribution of mass and the related polar moments, as well as the stability curve for these new designs, was significantly different from the first generation of FPBs. We felt reasonably certain that we could tease out a bit more comfort from the FPB concept.<\/p>\n

We chose\u00a0the larger FPB 78 for our personal use because we felt it would allow us to continue cruising as maturity made taking crew prudent. But this was a close call, and if this decision had been made a few years earlier, we would have chosen the FPB 70.<\/span><\/p>\n

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So here we are today, with 13,000 nm on FPB 78-1 Cochise<\/i>, a sistership Grey Wolf II<\/em>\u00a0now cruising, a third 78 set to launch at year’s end, and two FPB 70s in build. As we are\u00a0about to start cruising (now postponed for a bit) – those initial miles only count as shakedown – we have been working on our notes. What we will concentrate on in this post\u00a0are several areas\u00a0that have surprised us.<\/span><\/p>\n

A Bit Of History<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

The philosophy driving Wind Horse<\/i>, the FPB 64s, and the FPB 97 was simple: maximize ocean crossing capability in a crew-friendly fashion, so that passage-making would be enjoyable rather than a chore.<\/span><\/p>\n

In terms of design parameters this boils down into a yacht that comfortably maintains high average speeds. A key driver in this is an interior arrangement\u00a0that keeps the living areas close to the roll and pitch centers of the hull, which reduces the motion felt by the crew.\u00a0<\/span>This results in long, lean, easily driven hull shapes with minimum windage, and relatively low volume compared to the length of the hull.\u00a0<\/span>The efficacy of this approach is clearly seen in the number of miles already accumulated by the FPB 83, 64s, and 97.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

That these yachts are comfortable at sea goes without saying. By our sailing standards and compared to other designs, motion at sea is almost non-existent. But comfort is a relative term. If you are used to rolling +\/- 25 degrees while running in trades, or pitching your way through waves while\u00a0<\/span>the off-watch tries to sleep on the cabin sole, the early FPBs were like mana from heaven. When Wind Horse<\/em> was new we (and everybody else who came aboard) were entranced by the lack of motion; after a couple of years this became our new standard and we wanted more.<\/span><\/p>\n

FPB 78 – Design Goals<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

There were two main priorities for this new cruiser:<\/p>\n

First, when we started the FPB 78 design – 78 feet\/23.95m is the official measured length, the actual LOA is 86’\/26.3m – -we were chasing more interior space, something akin to that of the FPB 97, within a hull that was similar in length to the FPB 83 Wind Horse<\/em>. We were also after a layout that allowed us to have crew and\/or guests, with enough space for folks to have some privacy and separation. This meant we needed more height, depth, and beam. The tricky part here was that we would be living and working further from the motion centers of the vessel. If we were going to maintain the comfort level to which we and our clients had become accustomed, the motion in absolute terms had to be less.<\/span><\/p>\n

The next design goal had to do with systems. We have always pursued maximum systems efficiency and engineered an approach based on the assumption that the shore power cord was unplugged. These integrated systems combined a mix of batteries, charging capability, ventilation, and air conditioning that allowed the boats to sit for several days without running the genset. Solar power, while always part of the previous equation, was not a major driver in the design. But now with the data in hand from the FPB 97\u2019s massive solar array, we saw\u00a0that if we started from day one of the design cycle to organize our systems around a large solar array, a lot of good things would now\u00a0be possible.<\/span><\/p>\n

Comfort at Sea<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

Having put 13,000 nautical miles on FPB 78-1 Cochise<\/em> in a very short period, we can tell you that the FPB 78 is extraordinarily comfortable uphill, much smoother and quieter than any of our previous yachts. When reaching and running, the motion is a little softer\u00a0than the older designs, and still incredibly comfortable.<\/span><\/p>\n

But there is a definite conundrum. The hull shape required for upwind work is just the opposite of what you want when running with the waves. In this game of tradeoffs there is really no way, other than experience and gut feel, to know with precision the right balance between up and downwind design.<\/span><\/p>\n

For normal passaging, you want a bias toward upwind, because a yacht that\u00a0can make long passages\u00a0comfortably\u00a0<\/em>with waves on the nose has many more options as to where, when, and in what conditions it can go. The downwind steering capability\u00a0is ultimately a safety\u00a0issue. We are talking here about the ability to surf under control. The longer you can run at speed, the better chance you have at avoiding getting caught by truly dangerous weather. The minute you can no longer run, and have to turn around and jog slowly into the seas, you are now\u00a0in the path of the oncoming\u00a0adverse weather.<\/span><\/p>\n

During sea trials we were fortunate to experience a quickly building strong gale\u00a0<\/span>with very steep seas, and the surfing results were far better than we had dared to hope. Simply put, in steep, fast moving seas, FPB 78-1 Cochise<\/em> tracks beautifully, surfs for long periods at 15 to 20 knots (or more), and the Simrad autopilot had no trouble steering out of incipient broaches when the occasional wave slap back aft threatened to turn us broadside to the waves. You can see video on this blow here<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n

This is a large yacht, with more space in some interior areas than is safe at sea. The headroom is too high for handrails to be useful to shorter folks. The absolute requirement for security when moving about drove us to develop a system of Spectra rope \u201cman lines\u201d throughout the boat. These are tight, at a height where they are useful for Linda, and far more secure than handrails we have used in the past. Without exception the folks who have been to sea with us love them.<\/span><\/p>\n

We also have a pair of removable staple rails in the great room to break up the forward cabin sole.<\/span><\/p>\n

A quiet boat is a comfortable boat (and vice versa), and as a part of the initial design parameters we set aside a significant budget for noise control in terms of weight, cost, man hours, and materials with the goal of substantially reducing sound and vibration levels. This involved changing structure, increasing mass and stiffness, tripling the insulation in hull and deck, and installing sophisticated multi-layer sound dampening bulkheads. The result is the quietest boat we have ever been aboard at sea.<\/span><\/p>\n

At the other end of the comfort spectrum, we have\u00a0experienced a pleasant surprise at anchor. Although the FPB 78 does roll a bit in some anchorages, the motion is so soft that we have rarely seen the need to deploy our big booms and their attendant flopper stoppers. In fact, we have recently\u00a0shortened the booms by 10 ft\/3m.<\/p>\n

Maneuvering in tight quarters<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

The FPB 78 is a large yacht, with a fair amount of windage and drift. The norm with yachts like this is to have lots of fenders, the crew to handle them, make liberal use of bow and stern thrusters, and avoid tight places. This does not sound like a prescription for fun.<\/span><\/p>\n

Starting out with what we knew from the previous generation of FPBs, and taking advantage of a series of refinements in design and control, the FPB 78 is the most maneuverable, easy to handle of any FPB to date. Docking in the tightest situations has been a relative breeze. The bow thruster has proven to be unnecessary and the tunnel openings for it have been sealed to reduce maintenance and drag on FPB 78-1.<\/span><\/p>\n

In \u201cdocking mode\u201d a second autopilot pump in parallel delivers a 90-degree hard over to hard over time of seven seconds. This extremely quick rudder travel opens up a new world of maneuvering capabilities in crosswinds.<\/span><\/p>\n

From dead in the water, you can rotate in 1.5 boat lengths without using the inboard engine. With the outboard engine forward and the inboard reversed, rotating in a single boat length is easily accomplished.<\/span><\/p>\n

Another major advance comes from the wide anchor platform which provides an easy way to pass lines ashore with the bow pointed into the dock<\/i> in strong breeze, after which the line ashore becomes a rotation pivot point.\u00a0<\/span>We have used this bow-at-right-angles technique several times when faced with strong winds blowing us off the dock, or in areas with strong currents. <\/span><\/p>\n

As expected, the FPB 78 responds well to stern spring lines, and we are pleased to find that bow springs also work well in bringing the boat onto dock.<\/span><\/p>\n

The remote controls, one on the Matrix deck and the other on the main deck, have turned out to be very handy. When there are just two of us aboard we pre-position the main deck unit, and then after the initial line is ashore the helmsperson can come down from the Matrix deck, help with the lines, and still quickly make adjustments to engines and helm.<\/span><\/p>\n

Aft Deck Design Evolution, Function, and Dinghy Handling<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

The aft deck, and dinghy handling approach, has been evolving since before we began cutting metal four years ago. The design today, after many iterations, is quite different from the original.<\/span><\/p>\n

For example, the area above the engine room air vent has gone from a simple seat and\u00a0barbecue station to an outdoor galley and food prep area. A significant portion of this refining came after the same area had been developed for the FPB 70, which looked so good that we adopted the FPB 70 approach to the 78s.<\/span><\/p>\n

Having spent a lifetime in sail handling, the big booms and winches we use for launching and retrieving dinghies is second nature. It is also the most dangerous exercise there is aboard. So with these new FPBs we set out to simplify the rigging\u00a0and make it easier to handle the dinghies, particularly in rolling anchorages. We spent hundreds of hours doing 3D simulations, more time during build with experiments and changes, and 17+ variations with FPB 78-1 in the water. The final mods took place just recently, and we are ever so pleased to tell you that once through the learning curve the dinghy can be handled by one person if need be (although we recommend two for safety reasons).<\/span><\/p>\n

At anchor both dinghies are stored outboard with davits. The large RIB sits on top of the davits. The rowing dinghy is hung under the port side davits. This frees up the aft deck for lounging and entertaining.<\/span><\/p>\n

Matrix Deck<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

The FPB Matrix deck has been in constant flux since we began designing the new FPBs, and this has not yet stopped, although we are close (maybe). The space is so much more useful than we originally imagined, we have been loathe to commit to a final layout. So far, we have kept FPB 78-1 in a flex mode. This keeps us able to move around furniture, add a second couch, and generally play with the optimal layout as our\u00a0definition of optimal changes.<\/span><\/p>\n

In a conventional sense, the Matrix deck works well as a piloting station: great sight lines, lots of space for nav gear, charts, and reference manuals, and it\u2019s everyone\u2019s favorite lounging spot.<\/span><\/p>\n

The ventilation is excellent and we have not yet used the air conditioning up there. The roll-up back window is easy to use, and most of the time just one or maybe two of the opening doors or windows gives us plenty of air flow.<\/span><\/p>\n

The major change that has taken place so far is to reorganize things a bit to make the space more efficient for keeping watch on passage, and to improve the ambiance when it is used as a living area.<\/span><\/p>\n

A few small modifications\u00a0have made a big difference. We have lowered the navigation desk four inches\/100mm. This has an enormous impact on the visibility from all positions, and makes it possible to maintain\u00a0watch while seated all the way aft, which is the most comfortable place to be on the Matrix deck when headed upwind. Sightlines forward over the lowered nav desk are now excellent. Another benefit of the lower desk is that we have been able to use lower helm chairs, eliminating the foot rest bars and making them more comfortable.<\/span><\/p>\n

We have copied the navigation monitor approach used in the great room, and installed a 55\u201d television on an articulated wall mount in the middle of the starboard coaming (FPB 78-3 has two of these 55″ tvs). The vertical orientation of this installation reduces glare on the surrounding area at night. The monitor can be viewed from one of the helm chairs or from any other seated position. The overall impact of this is to make the Matrix deck\u00a0more efficient when conning the boat, as well as much more user-friendly at sea for watchstanding. The ambiance for general chilling is greatly enhanced. <\/span><\/p>\n

A part of the design evolution for these new Matrix decks\u00a0includes the incorporation of light but strong laminated glass windows. This has proved so successful on the FPB 78 that the FPB 70s are being done in similar fashion. <\/span><\/p>\n

The remote control used for docking now includes a Simrad OP 50, that allows for control of radar and other functions. Having this remote by our side gives us the ability to sit aft with our feet up when on watch during passage.<\/span><\/p>\n

Living the good life off the grid <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

The main driver in yacht systems design is how you approach\u00a0HVAC. In the tropics, most yachts require a generator 24\/7 to provide power for the air conditioning. In the past, we used a combination of natural ventilation, awnings and insulation, to reduce heat loads to where we could get away with running the generator just a few hours a day. <\/span><\/p>\n

The large, highly efficient solar arrays with which these new FPBs are fitted have gotten us to a place where fine-tuning other parts of the equation can significantly reduce and\/or eliminate generator time entirely. Along with our usual approach to shading and awnings, we have enhanced the natural ventilation on board with the addition of passive and powered fan inlets and outlets. Additionally, our<\/span>\u00a0normal heavy hull and deck insulation has been tripled. <\/span><\/p>\n

Coupled with battery banks even larger than our robust standard, it is now possible to spend long periods of time with zero carbon footprint. Aside from helping the environment and having a quieter home, the elimination of the daily fuel burn from the genset significantly enhances the yacht\u2019s endurance. Where most yachts Cochise\u2019s<\/em> size would require 20-30 gallons of diesel per day just for electricity needs at anchor, the FPB 78 uses little or none. This daily savings really adds up over a period of months, to the point where it can significantly impact how much fuel is left for passaging and\/or how often you have to arrange to purchase fuel.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Comfort, interior temperature, humidity, noise, and the ability to enjoy yourself off the grid for long periods of time are all intertwined. Cruising in tropical Fiji with Cochise,\u00a0<\/em>we averaged one hour of generator time every third day. When FPB 78-1 was docked in Fort Lauderdale, we didn’t even bother to connect the shore power cord.<\/p>\n

Aft Space Bonus<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

One of the design advances that\u00a0gives us the most pleasure is the change in the aft area of these new yachts, one that allows for both a spacious engine room and a separate, isolated area. On FPB 78-1 we are using the space as\u00a0a combination workshop\/crew accommodation. On Cochise<\/em> this area is referred to as the \u201cExecutive Lounge\u201d, and we now have the room\u00a0to lay out both the power and hand tools in a very efficient, easy to use manner\u2026We think it is radically cool!<\/span><\/p>\n

FPB Performance<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n

We have already discussed how much more comfortable the new FPBs are at sea than even their predecessors, as well as their increased maneuverability. The question now before us is: what about fuel burn, speed and range?<\/span><\/p>\n

The real world data on the FPB 70 is still a ways off, but we now have lots of good data on the FPB 78. <\/span><\/p>\n

The FPB 78 has\u00a060% more displacement than the FPB 83, and probably double the volume (counting the Matrix deck) of the FPB 83. Even so, at ten knots cruising speed, in calm conditions, the fuel burn is similar to the FPB 83. At higher speed length ratios, starting around 10.25 knots of boat speed, the fuel burn rate begins to increase compared with the much smaller FPB 83. Likewise, the additional windage costs us fuel burn upwind, but then pays a dividend by acting as sail area off the wind.<\/span><\/p>\n

In terms of speed and range, the FPB 78 has a demonstrated capability to go 4,700 nm upwind in the trades against the prevailing waves and current, averaging ten knots speed over ground, with 500 gallons of fuel to spare. If you were going in the opposite direction, downwind with the current and waves, you could increase speed by over a knot, while reducing fuel burn by 10%, extending range to over 6,000 nm with the same surplus left over. We expect that the FPB 70 will be comparably efficient at low speeds, and slightly more efficient than the 78 at higher speed length ratios. <\/span><\/p>\n

Cochise<\/em>\u00a0just spent the last four weeks in Cory and Angela McMahon\u2019s Triton Marine boatyard in Beaufort, North Carolina. We completed a couple of the items discussed above, made a few additional refinements here and there, and dealt with our punch list. The \u201cNB\u201d notebook is\u00a0done and and we were ready\u00a0to go cruising. Cochise<\/em> is now back in storage, while the knee heals.<\/span><\/p>\n

The forced hiatus has brought our priorities back into hyper-focus, and we now know just how important it is to get out back out on the water where we belong. Just as soon as your correspondent gets rid of this brace…
\n(When we do get back aboard, we will update this post with photos to illustrate some of the modifications.)<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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